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Giving and Receiving Feedback 

 
One of the most useful things on deviantart is the option to give and receive feedback. There are different kinds of feedback. This article aims to inform you on how to give quality feedback and hopefully receive it. 

Types of Feedback

  • Comments

One of the quickest ways to interact with others. From journals, to forums, to art, to profiles, comments are used everywhere. However, the quality can range from spam, to constructive. 

Critiques

Any deviant can write them,(~,*,=,`,^ etc.) but only premium members can request them. Constructive comments can substitute for these. Critiques take some time to write, and really provide insight. If used correctly, can be a wonderful way to give/receive constructive criticism.



Giving  Feedback

This is important to receiving feedback. If you give, you are likely to receive.
Commenting:
Quality control is a must. Spamming cool, nice, beautiful, etc. Are not constructive. Say what you like about a piece.
Example: A lovely flower photograph..
Instead of, "Pretty"
Consider writing something like: I like the way you've centered this. The colors look lovely, vivid, and clear. However I would suggest minor (improvement here). I bet it smells lovely. (comment on composition as needed..)

It takes a bit more time, but in the end it's worth it. Aim to be precise, constructive, and kind. Respectfully suggest improvements. Avoid bashing other's art.
Aim to write more than one - three words. Two to three sentences of quality feedback is a good start. Comments can be just as good as critiques. Keep that in mind. 
If you really want more feedback, it's highly recommended that you give.

Critiques:

Critique precisely.  Also, when writing a critique, do not spam at the end/advertise to hit that 100 word mark. A critique should be fair, constructive, and well written. Be honest,  but in a kind way.

Things to consider while commenting/critiquing constructively are:
  • :bulletblue: Colors
  • :bulletblue: Contrast
  •  :bulletblue: Composition and balance
  • :bulletblue:Originality
  •  :bulletblue:Technique 
  • :bulletblue: Details
  • :bulletblue: Concepts
  •  :bulletblue: Mood/atmosphere.

  How to Comment- Pointers and Examples ProjectComment 

More Resources on Giving Feedback:

How to Write an Artist's (or Authors) Comment  3wyl

A guide to commenting pullingcandy

Receiving Feedback

There are quite a few ways to get your work known.

:bulletblue:Thumbshare in the forums, and sharezone, iphotograph, writersroom, in +Chat. Request specifically for comments/ critiques.

:bulletblue:Get involved in group critique nights.

:bulletblue: Find Feedback Oriented Groups, and submit there.

Feedback Related Groups


General: 


:iconfeedbackfrenzy:
:iconfeedbackrevolution: :iconiwantfeedback: :iconfeedbackhub:
:icontwo-points: :icongimmefeedback: :iconprojectporkchop:
:iconfeaturechallenge: :iconfeature-me-weekly:
 

Comment Centered: 

:iconprojectcomment: :iconcomment-it: :iconcomments-plz: :iconcomment-trade:   
 :iconbeconstructive: 

Critique Centered: 

:icon1001critiques:
:iconcritiques-wanted: :iconcritiquesandcontests: :iconcritique-it:
:iconcritique-exchange::iconcritiquesforpoints:  :iconcritiqueplease: :iconopen-critique:  :icongoldencritique-club:

Targeted Critique Groups - 

:iconwritingcritiques: :iconfeedback4literature: :iconcanine-improvement: :iconthephotocritic: :iconcosplay-critique:


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Community week. #projecteducate

Giving and receiving quality feedback.

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:iconmitoxd:
mitoXD Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014   General Artist
Though I've always been trying not to sound (too) trivial, I see there are more items to work out. Thanks for sharing! :heart:
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014   General Artist
Thank you for reading! :love:
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TheDizzyDan Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I feel reassured reading this guideline as to how I should go about providing feedback on here, as it is one of my favorite activities on here, but one issue that is not addressed here and hasn't been hit upon by anybody I've found yet is when some have already commented my thoughts exactly yet in stronger or in more concise terms than I had in mind. 
I feel discouraged, for I don't want to annoy artists by saying something that I know or am pretty sure has already been said.  In which case I shamefully often "fave-and-run," but I sometimes am compelled to give an interpretation if the piece doesn't already have a story to it. 
Some have appreciated this to varying degrees; I've been received as being creative at the artist's expense in the form of a distracting comment in the comments section, and I've also been received well by those who find having people being so compelled as to be creatively inspired by their work as to sharing it with them is compliment to the artistry of their output. 
My third and rarest option is to say something along the lines of "I second the notion stated above" in reply to comment which I deem most relatable and well stated.
I just wonder what somebody else thinks about this and what should be done in these cases, or, if there is something I haven't seen that addresses this issue, if I could be directed there so as to better inform myself.  Trying to comment well is one of the things I especially strive to do and take pride in here on dA, and I encounter this problem so often that I should really sort this matter out.
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014   General Artist
Your enthusiasm for commenting is awesome! I'm glad you found my article here, I hope it helped you out in some way.

The things you've stated are pretty interesting there. 
I think you're free to say whatever someone else said. Perhaps write the comment and submit without looking at the others first, then maybe you can reply under someone else and add in that you agree with them. 
I'm not sure if that's the approach or answer you were looking for, but just an idea.

I think an interesting comment is better than none at all, but maybe just make sure you can explain why your comment relates in a way? 
I'm not sure you need to unless someone explicitly informs you that you have written something distracting.

:highfive: People really appreciate your comments, I'm sure. Plus, props to you for being insightful and deep!
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TheDizzyDan Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you very much for all of this.  I will definitely follow your advice.  You seem to be aware of what I'm talking about, and I take your experienced suggestions seriously.  I feel better now that I have some guidance on this.
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Foxfire96 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Fantastic article.

I often have trouble with commenting on dA, though I sincerely want to give good, inciteful feedback beyond the arbitrary "absolutely stunning", "simply beautiful", and all the other "I have nothing all that useful to say, but feel obligated to say something, so here's a pretty phrase" comments (which I am very prone to doing, ashamedly). A lot of times I have trouble figuring out how to say what I want to say, or how to say it right, or just what to say at all. This helps, it really does. :)


On a side note, I hate that I'm just now seeing this. I'm just starting on catching up. ;^; Really shows how far behind I am. Sometimes, I disgust myself.
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2013   General Artist
Thanks!

Sometimes that's hard, yes.
But, try reading this. May help you learn to word things a bit.

No worries!
:huggle:
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Foxfire96 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks. :)
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2013   General Artist
C:
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:iconpizzapotatonbacon:
PizzaPotatoNBacon Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Student General Artist
:icony-u-noplz: Y ME NO SEE THIS SOONER?

Great Article as usual~ I try my best, I do, and this helps! :)
Now I can go off and make MOAR comments :dummy:

Here's a tip for all who see this comment: (Yes, Comment Lurkers. I'm talking about you. :icongrinstareplz:)
:bulletgreen: For those outstanding pieces you can't seem to find any need of improvements:
When I comment on a piece I like that I don't think needs any improvements (because I really do find amazing pieces a lot), I don't use the one worded comment excuse. I try to tell them what I like about it exactly. I comment how great their use of certain colors, the atmosphere the piece gives me, the details... I try to tell them what they should keep up the good work. Sure, it's not as helpful as a comment that can help you improve, but it's a comment that can tell you what you should keep up.
:bulletgreen: Commenting on an art form you're not familiar with:
I happen to go through this a lot. ^^; But here are things I do when I'm stuck in one of the greatest pitfalls in giving feedback:
1. Research the basics of that art form - Try searching through other related pieces and groups. What do people admire when it comes to art like that? What do they frown upon? Is the piece you're commenting on follow the rules of the art form in question? Ask yourself these questions when you see other pieces under the category. What do the experts of this art form say?
Searching is your friend. It's kind of like taking a survey.
2. Focus on the message or the concept. - This is the easiest one. Not only is it easy to do, it's also one of the most helpful as the creativity of the message/concept and how it was conveyed is something universal in the arts. "What is the message/concept here?", "How did the art piece explain this?", "Did they convey it well enough?", "How did this make me feel?" are great questions to ask yourself. Whether it's Photography, Poetry, or even an Artisan Craft, you can ask these and still get a great answer.
3. If you're not familiar in doing the art form, are you familiar in seeing it? -
--Commenting on Photography: Do you read magazines? If so, what kind? Do you like looking at the photos? I, myself read travel magazines :eyes: and they've helped me established what are great Urban and Rural photos, and what are not. While not all magazines get the best photographers, all of them know what's excellent. If they didn't how could they sell? :giggle:
But this also applies to every form of media, be it TV, Newspapers, Blogs, anywhere a great photo can pop up!
--Commenting On Animations: Please, we've all seen one form of animation. In fact, just seeing things move is animation enough! But when you watch animated things on TV, you'll agree that the best series are always filled with uber-smooth animation. :nod: How smooth is the animation in that Flash movie? You may not know what goes behind the scenes, but as a viewer, you know how good it looks. :eyes: // :cough: Like how you know when the acting is bad //
3. Find tutorials and articles on how to critique that exact art form. - This can help a whole lot! They happen to be teach you the basics too. (but I still recommend 1. as you can see it from different views of different people) Not only does it teach you what's good and what's bad, it also teaches you a little bit of the art form itself. I learned quite a bit about Photography when I read a Photography Critiquing tutorial. If you don't know what they're talking about, don't fret! You can do additional searches for the terms being used (and you can use these newly learned words in your comment :la:). Kinda like studying, I admit, but it's long term and you may not have to return to the tutorial or remember the terms again as they're stuck in your head.
:bulletgreen: For tutorials and articles that have helped you a lot (such as this one :giggle:) and/or Tutorials and articles in general:
Compliment and thank the creator for being kind enough to take time and make a tutorial. It's common decency in doing so, and you know it. But that's not all! Sometimes tutorials and articles could use extra input, or they may not be correct in some parts.
-- If you have a tip, or a simpler way of applying that same effect (such as keyboard shortcuts or shorter ways of getting to a certain effect- like a filter or a code or whatever), put it in your comment! It can be seen by everyone, including the creator! Comment lurkers may find your tip, and they can use it. The creator of the tutorial can update it too! It's beneficial for everyone! :dummy:
-- Is there a more proper way of doing something in the tutorial? Does the technique defy a law or theory (such as shading and coloring)? If it does and you can see it, then add it! If you can suggest on how they can improve the tutorial, then put it in there too! The more, the merrier.
-- Talk about the actual tutorial itself. Is the text visible? Is the color scheme fine? Do they use blinding colors (as in OMFG MY EYES BURNNN :onfire:)? Does it answer all those questions in your head? How about the layout? Were the terms understandable? Any grammatical errors or typographic errors? How helpful was it, overall? This is very helpful to the creator of the tutorial. It's even more appreciated if the creator is planning on making a lot of tutorials in the future. :eyes:

-- As for articles, input is also much, much appreciated! Like I said, if you have a tip in general, or you have a certain way of doing things (which of course, is related to the article in question), it will be helpful to all!
--Is it readable? How is the formatting? A certain word used to many times? Does it look like a wall of text that ends up driving you away? Presentation of an article is really important, so if you see an issue, don't be afraid to spout it out.
-- How useful is it? Does it cover that certain topic well? Are any methods mentioned effective? Is it concise? How well does it explain, or how much of it did you understand? If the writer needs to improve on one of these areas, or if you don't understand, feel free to ask and express your opinion.
-- Is it hurtful in anyway? Offending to a certain group? Or how about how respectful the article writer was to the audience? If the article was related to behavior on the site, do you agree with the methods? Do you think there are better ways to react? If so, then you, as a person, have a right to express this. Be very respectful though, and even if the writer may have had a more disrespectful/ less helpful/ less positive way of doing things, remember, they have their own beliefs and ideals, and opinion. You can say they were hurtful, you can say what you think on the matter, and you can suggest a better way, but you can never force your opinion down their throat, you can never insult them, and you can never flame them. If you do so, then you're no better than they are. In any case, you're much, much worse.

//shot for wall of text
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013   General Artist
Wow! Thank you!
This amazing contribition will be featured eventually. :la:
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:iconpizzapotatonbacon:
PizzaPotatoNBacon Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Student General Artist
I'm actually putting it in the next CW. ^^;
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013   General Artist
Ooh yY
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PizzaPotatoNBacon Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2013  Student General Artist
:la: I'm writing the draft now!
You're lucky you saw a glimpse. :icongrinstareplz:
(Truth: Right after posting the comment, I just had to remember I can bring this to the next CW week :facepalm: Oh well. Comment lurker feed)
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2013   General Artist
:eager: :la:
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cmd1095 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
hey thanks for this. I often do as you suggest with comments when i'm able/have that kind of time, but i never considered it might bring me feedback as well.

and that assortment of feedback groups has me practically drooling on my PSP. thanks to your efforts i can finally get the feedback i've begged to try and get for a year now...
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012   General Artist
:huggle:
Glad it was useful to you!
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:iconmiontre:
miontre Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Great article! :w00t:
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012   General Artist
Thank you!
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mixdouble Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Hello Ali...
Thank you for this Journal...a very good idea...
How I feel and do it:
When I "get" something out of a picture...or a written thing...
I want to give something back...
I divide my feedback into 3 parts...and write a little in each:
1: The piece of art...
2: The artist...
3: Me the viewer...
That way...I have to use at least 3 words: "Good good good"...! (Kidding)...
1: I can comment on the art...
2: I can reflect on the artist and the motivation that drives them...
3: And I can express myself a little more...
so the reciever get to know a little...where "I am comming" from...
I use word...to write in...and google translate...before posting it here...

If I have a "serious(in my sense)" issue...I First send the feedback as a note...
and ask if they want it as a normal comment or not...
I can present myself a little...get a connection...

We have 3 brains...
the lowest is common to all animals with a spine...it is sensory input/output...
the middle is common with certain animals...it is emotions...moral...
the top brain is only in humans...it is divided in two...the frontal lobes...
...discussing…predicting… Ethics…
they can be opposite...as in lefthanded...but normally they are:
logical left is serial...and creative right is parallel

I try to "speak" with all the brains...one after another...
It takes time to change...!
but I also try to see...where the artist is...and start from there...

Here is a story to you from Peter Lund Madsen:
The difference in behavior of the 3 brains…seen at a party:
1-Only Low Brain:
A Comodo Varan…comes…eat all food…eat all guests…eat host and hostess…sleeps...
2-Low and Middle:
A Pig…arrives…Jumps on food…eats farts and burbs…rests…very happy…
All 3:
Humans…start by sucking up to the hostess…to ensure we're invited again next time…!

Greetings Ali...Jakob.
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012   General Artist
:la:
That's interesting Jakob! :hug:
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elaionela Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012   General Artist
:heart:
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elaionela Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012   General Artist
:w00t:
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elaionela Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
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AkatsukiKurohana Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
Some good advice. Thank you for sharing. :la:
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012   General Artist
Glad you think so!
my pleasure!
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DestroyErase Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
More people should contribute to the /ic/ group which I fail to maintain. The board itself is very productive and welcoming to novices. We take ourselves and each other's artistic endeavors very seriously.
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   General Artist
:nod: I agree!
:la:
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:iconrainylake:
rainylake Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Wonderful article.
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   General Artist
I'm glad you think so. :heart:
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:iconrainylake:
rainylake Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:)
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   General Artist
:hug:
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I honestly don't even bother with critiques anymore since barely anyone can write a proper one or even provide enough insight for me to actually figure out what's wrong with it (I'm more of a visually guided pain in the butt so I guess that searching for someone to red-line my work might be a better option).

It's because of this type of thing, that whenever I do offer a critique, I don't just say what's good/bad about a piece, I also search for ways to help the person actually improve upon it (like through stock, tutorials,etc.)

I also believe that it is common courtesy to ask before critiquing since some people are very touchy on the subject or might actually want another piece to be critiqued instead (the most awkward case of unsolicited critiques that I saw was someone who wrote one on a dead guy's deviation-some of the previous comments stated his death so it was a bit odd that he went through with it even when the artist's description ironically said "no critiques". O.o)
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   General Artist
:nod: That's always a good idea.

Well, usually, I write nice long comments on what is lovely about the piece.

And yeah, you must be careful.
Making it polite and gentle is a nice way to nudge an opinion.

I feel that focusing here would let me see that awesome cat closer, that kind of thing.

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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That tends to be a bit more troublesome in spur of the moment photography. Finding the cat & replicating the same conditions but in another position is definitely a challenge. XD
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   General Artist
:nod: Indeed.
:lol: Kitties for the win!
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I feel like I'm doing investigations again. XD
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   General Artist
:lol: Go investigator Froggy. Or the Savage Investigator. :eyes:
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's actually mafia frog. XD
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   General Artist
:lol: Of course. :la:
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IllyDragonfly Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   Writer
It's useful, just a bit difficult when you aren't too good with english... for the first months here on dA I was able just to write 'beautiful' and 'so pretty'! And because I felt a bit afraid to talk with good artists and offend them too! ;)
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   General Artist
:heart:

Ah don't be afraid! Just say what you like in lots of words! :la:
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IllyDragonfly Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   Writer
Okay I'll try! :la:
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   General Artist
:heart: :la:
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:iconurus-28:
Urus-28 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nothing new under the sun, but always nice to have a reminder :thumbsup:
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   General Artist
:hug: Glad you enjoyed my article!
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Requiemachina Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
A very interesting read!

Now, if people here weren't so bitchy about receiving quality feedback...
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012   General Artist
I know! :noes:

I'm glad you enjoyed it.
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